Liverpool crash out of the Champions League after Chelsea defeat

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Liverpool are out of Europe after losing 3-2 after Extra time to Chelsea.

Liverpool went a goal down through Drogba who scored after Kalou's shot was saved by Reina. Fernando Torres pulled a goal back after Benayoun took on the Chelsea defence before sending a ball through to Torres who slotted past Cech.

It went to extra time, where Hyypia fouled Ballack in the area to give away a Penalty, then Drogba scored again after Riise failed to track Anelka properly; rather than playing to the whistle he opted to claim offside against Anelka, who squared for Drogba to make it 3-1.

Ryan Babel got a goal back from 40 yards, when he blasted a shot at Cech who could not hold on it to it, but it was too little too late.

 

AnfieldRed-Admin's picture

Riise garbage again

Riise was crap again tonight. First he gave away an own goal last week, then he didnt chase Drogba down for the first goal, then tried to claim offside on Anelka rather than playing to the whistle.

1Red1Pool's picture

Riise is finished at Anfield

I think he's gone Tony in the summer. He's gone to shite and even at his best he was still too fond of hoofing the ball. Pity Aurelio got injured as he was finally showing his ability.

I think Rafa annoying Drogba was the biggest fuck up because after all the games he played against us he never got two goals in a game. Yet tonight he was possessed.

Our spine is fine but the full backs and wingers we need better players with quality. And Gerrard needs a position in these games where he is more involved. A free role leaves him on the periphery of the games when he's our best player.

Kuyt, Benayoun (despite his great moment) Riise and Arbeloa were the weak links in the first 11 that we need to improve on in the summer.

EDDIE888's picture

IF TORRES WAS INJURED HE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT ON KUYT

I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE TORRES WAS INJURED , HE RAN OFF OK , AND EVEN IF HE WAS HE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT ON CROUCH.

EDDIE888's picture

1RED1POOL YOUR RIGHT

1RED1POOL YOUR 100% RIGHT PLAYERS LIKE KUYT PENNANT BENNYUN AURELIO VORONIN KEWELL RIISE ALONSO JUST ARN'T GOOD ENOUGH.
ADD BENITEZ'S NEGATIVE TACTICS AND WE FALL MILES SHORT OF A PREMIERSHIP WINNING SIDE.
UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF RAFA'S SUCCESS INEUROPE , WE WLL HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER SEASON TO SACK HIM.

WE WERE TOO NEGATIVE TONIGHT AND YET WE STILL HAD OUR CHANCES OF WINNING, IF ONLY WE HAD PLAYED TWO UP FRONT. CROUCH MUST BE PISSED OFF NOT TO HAVE GOT ON THE PITCH TONIGHT, THE GAME WAS CRYING OUT FOR HIM.

imteaz_torres09's picture

i just think luck wasn't on

i just think luck wasn't on our side tonight. the lads gave it a good go. we lost concentration for 10mins in extra-time and it was over. we still had a chance at the end. sami should have had a pen(strange zat ze ref put ze whistle in his mouth and yet didnt blow it)and riise was unlucky last week(not zat he's a great player).....overall i thought we were the better side but didnt quite get the luck..... it happens sometimes......its a really bitter pill to swallow thats for sure....

on the up side this summer has to be huge for liverpool fc. we need a change in ownership and we need rafa backed 100% to go out and but a couple of attacking world beaters. i truly believe we are better than chelsea and arsenal and heres hoping that next season we challenge.....and win number 19.....certainly we need to buy more quality players but wiz zese stupid americans we cant xpect a large trnsfer kitty.on top of zat zers ze debt on ze club,again bkoz of zem.i fink zey'v given 30m to rafa only 2 please ze fans after wat zey'v done to ze club.wen i luk at ze way ze ozer clubs r going about wiz zer transfers,(ramos signing modric for 15.8m n now lukin for a swap deal-berbatov for eto'o,scums neighbours bidding 40m for ronaldinho)hpe we can get sign some world class players. . .

YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE!

CHIN UP LADS.....

THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT.......WE'RE LIVERPOOL FC!!!!!

katjes's picture

YNWA

i know we didnt play well last night~we didnt perform our best ,esp for most of our best players, and therefore let chelsea enter the final...

i was so sad last night,becoz i believe all our players' effort in the season deserve to enter the final. They worth it!!They did so well against inter milan, arsenal, as well as chelsea at the first leg~they just accidentally dropped last night, and this was enough to make them out of the champions league...

but life goes on, for all of the fans and players and the manager.let us place our hope onto next season, and keep supporting them in winning glory!!we know u guys can do well in the next season~

Im so proud of u,Liverpool~We'll keep supporting u as u walk on.You'll never walk alone.

EDDIE888's picture

PROUD OF OUR PERFORMANCE - NOW WE NEED TO RE ORGANISE OUR TEAM

I was proud of our performance last night if the truth was known we lost the tie because of Riise mistake in the first leg, the difference between going to the bridge 1-0 up and 1-1 was huge.

Now we need to reorganise the side, we need to buy top quality players and top quality only.
We also need to clear out all of the not good enoughs.

Out must go - Kewell, Riise, Pennant, Voronin, Alonso, Crouch (if only because Rafa doesnt give him a chance),Kuyt, Carson, and Guthrie .

We then need to bring in two top quality full backs, a top class winger, and two top quality strikers.

We are still a long way away from having a premiership winning team.
But us fans deserve a premiership challenging side, we cannot keep being out of the race by Christmas, frankly that is unacceptable. Rafa needs to buy wisely, better than ever before, that means getting the checkbook out and buying big money top quality signings, no more squad players and players for the future.

Wether he can do this is the $64,000 question. Gareth Barry would make a good first signing, but players like Valencia of Wigan worry me (if his so good why is he playing for Wigan ?)Valencia is hardly World class. Benitez needs to buy top class / world class players not not good enoughs.

spookyonthekop's picture

THE REASON WE LOST THE SEMI

well our semi final luck has finnaly ran out against chelsea.
all the lads put up a good and brave performance, but i think the reason that we lost the semi was not because of last night but from the 1st leg at anfield when stevie g played the long corner in the 93rd minute instead of playing the short ball and keeping possession in the chelsea end.
i know in hindsight we all say these things but while at work at listening to it on the radio i was in disbelief at why gerrard chose to hoof it into the penalty box which then in turn led to the equalising goal.
hard luck lads and lets hope for a better run next run next season.

imteaz_torres09's picture

Rafa's comments

now zer r even some saying zat we lost bkoz of wat rafa said about drogba.wat rubbish!!The fact is that Liverpool were 20 minutes or so from penalties, this shows the closeness of the contest and over the two legs either team would have deserved their place in the final, with my biased eyes believing that, on pure football, Liverpool were probably, ever so slightly, the better team. The fact is that this tie was decided not by tactical genius of either manager, but by individual mistakes made by Risse and Hyypia.
To blame Rafa's management for Liverpools' loss is wide of the mark, clearly not warranted, and is a smack of disrespect.
The Drogba thing has been blown out of proportion due to his goals and the fact Chelsea won. If you are looking for reasons for Liverpool's defeat, look no further than the normally composed and reliable Hyypia, who had a stinker last night from the moment he walked onto the pitch. I think Skrtel going off was crucial for us especially as he appeared to have the ability to contain the Chelsea forwards a lot better given his presence and pace.I've no complaints about the result - the result was always going to depend on individual errors. Hyypia made 2 (the penalty and allowing Kalou to skip onto his better foot) and Carragher played Anelka onside in the build up to Drogba's 2nd. Chelsea made mistakes too, but they were in less dangerous areas, and when they WERE in dangerous areas, Liverpool didn't make the most of it.

PS Drogba's celebration after his goal showed that he does not have an ounce of dignity or grace, and highlights yet again why i hate him with such frightening intensity! The sooner he leaves the better for everyone!

aatir's picture

i agree wit u

i agree wit u imteaz...injury to skrtel proved to be a crucial point in the game.. hyypia didn have the best of games.. skrtel is faster than hyypia and more fit..and MAYBE he wudve done better on the challenge on ballack that led to the penalty...its all a game of ifs n buts.. but most crucially it ate up one substitution...
we cud ve easily used that substitution to put crouch on.. i was quite mad when pennant got on..it didn make sense.. babel shudve come on insted of benayoun and then crouch for torres...pennant didn do anythin for the time he came on...he is not player who can play on the european stage..
anyways it was a fantastic match nonetheless...my heads still buzzzin...
NEXT SEASON...till then.. we wait..

kev j's picture

rafa

According 2 tv reports rafa is having a big clear out in the summer of crouch,kewell,pennant,riise & alonso. ur asking yourself theres one player missing from that list. KUYT theres no mention of him being shown the door SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE STUCK WITH HIM 4 ANOTHER SEASON! if thats the case next season will be the same as this then! rouman who's the latest players we've been linked with?

EDDIE888's picture

TIME TO PUT SOME YOUNGSTERS IN

With two games left and Forth spot guaranteed its time to blood some of the youngsters, I would like to see Nemeth up front with Torres and Insua at left back Plessis in midfield with Spearing,weve got nothing to lose by playing these kids and everything to gain.

EDDIE888's picture

Kev j

Kev j there's a big rumour going around that we are in for David Villa of Valencia,Barry from Villa with Carson being used as bait, plus Mancini from Italy. Three pretty good International players, Villa has experience of playing alongside Torres for Spain, Barry has looked good playing alongside Gerrard and Mancini is talking of buying out his contract which means he would only cost 4m but good wages, if we offload Kewell who's on 60,000 then we could offer that to Mancini, we were quoted 15m for him last year.

julie's picture

this is not liverpool

this isnt lfc the way it was b4 2 me every body give up we had chance after chance 2 get the goals in sg put it wide he needs glasses when the ball came in from the corner they were just looking at it i hope rafa is really proud of himself he f.cked up the prem now he done this 2 us how many more dissapointments do we need?remember the 8-0 win against birmingham?that the team im on abt we desperatly need some1 soon 2 help torres get rid of all the shite asap & get back a team that can really get us trophies

rouman's picture

julie..

were all disapoited, but at least we got to the semi,s the lads gave there all. its just was not to be,i am gutted but for me its all about next season. i have backed rafa all a long, but next season for me will be his biggest test. if we donot challenge for the prem, then his time is up. he needs class plaYERS, not run of the mill shite. all this yankie stuff needs to be sorted, hicks should sell so we all can move on.at the moment we are all angry, because it never went are way, and when were angry we all say things we sometimes regret later. so to us all lets wait for next year, 2008/9 the year we win the prem, ynwa....

clyde1874's picture

Jamie, you're a plank!

So Jamie Redknapp thinks that Rafa's comments about Drogba fired him up, come on, first of all Rafa stated a fact. Drogba is a good player, and is also a cheating diving twat, i mean goes down to easily, and second that was a Champions League Semi Final 2nd leg, so all the players should have been fired up anyway. Last night's the 1st time i've heard him say Liverpool are his team, even then, as usual he couldn't heap enough praise on his cousin, the well and truly overated frank lampard. He normally gets swayed by that Hairy (waxed) little retard Richard "knows Fuck All about football" Keys, picking the bones of Liverpool and doing their best to drive a wedge between Stevie G and Rafa. Yet another ex player the fans respected sticking a knife into the club, although to be fair to Jamie, he doesn't like to be confrontational and generally agrees with whats being said. Surprised he's able to sit down with all the splinters in his arse from sitting on the fence. we lost last night because that tosser Riise wouldn't use his right leg at Anfield. and because we had 4 tossers playing shit. having said that, we still could have easily won! not bad with only 7 men, this proves that we're not far away from challenging, if Rafa gets his tactics right in League games and the players realise that they are good enough. Still got to lose the deadwood in the summer and fetch talented players in though! LFC-4-EVER!

julie's picture

rouman

i know what ur saying & ur right i am peed off but yes wait 4 next season see what it brings lets hope rafa gets his head the right way round this time hope he has learned his lesson good luck 4 sundays match lads we need 2 make the last few games ours

ynwa

1Red1Pool's picture

How hard is buying good players

When you look at our first 11 against Chelsea, and see the likes of Kuyt, Arbeloa, Riise and Benayoun, then you have to wonder how hard it is to buy 11 very good players.

I accept Liverpool cannot afford a squad as good as Chelsea and Man U because they are far wealthier. But I don't accept that after 4 years Rafa Benitez could not find a better player than Dirk Kuyt to be in our starting 11 in a European Cup semi-final. Neither do I accept after 4 years he couldn't have found better full backs than Alvaro Arbeloa and John long ball Riise.

If Rafa Benitez had 11 very good, solid and talented players to start in the first 11 then I could accept the reason we haven't even challenged for the league is because we can't afford a big enough squad.

But we don't even have a top class first 11 as was shown last Wednesday night. And I fail to see how after spending 150 million we don't even have 11 top class players when two of our best - Gerrard and Carra - cost Benitez nothing.

I believe Benitez needs to get the first 11 right and then he can worry about the squad. The problem with Benitez is he is utterly OBSESSED with talking about the squad and he ends up having a first 11 that contains players like Dirk Kuyt, a player who wouldn't get near any top class team because he simply isn't good enough. Igor Biscan had great games in Europe too but it didn't mean he was good enough.

Rafa Benitez needs to get his first 11 packed with quality players and then worry about the subs. Patrice Evra didn't cost much and look how good he is. The talent is out there for our budget but Rafa has got as many wrong as right in the transfer market and that's why we are still not near to the title after his 4th season.

kev j's picture

spot on 1red1pool

i couldnt agree with u more on ur post rafa's obsession with playing kuyt every week its more than an obsession its been one big mistake what a waste of £9m with the likes of kuyt,pennant,voronin,riise,alonso & kewell these are not match winning players they cant get u a goal out of nothing and thats what we are missing in our team we need players that can grab the game by the scruff of its neck instead of relying on SG & torres we need top quality players in the summer not quantity! so rafa needs 2 pull his finger out and sign well known players not UNKNOWNS! i have a funny feeling next season is goin 2 be deja vu all over again especially in the EPL?

rouman's picture

1red1pool

your answer is the easy way out. arse bought unknowns, yet they won the prem. are problem is rotation, look at crouch no matter how well he plays, kuyt will allways get the nod. are defence changes like the weather, only 4 players are first choice, sg ,carra, torres,and reina. and maybey mash. the rest are all squad members. rafa needs to know his first 11 and work from there. it will not make any diffrence to who we buy if the rotation continues. because players are human, if rafa can,t be arsed why should they? they will still get paid . the reason we were so good is that players. wanted to play for liverpool, they were not all world class players, but there heart, and soul belonged to lfc. the shirt was a honour, too many players today lack motivation, its all money torres is a good example he wanted to play for l,pool and look how good he has been. i like alves as a player, but his attuide is i go were money is good. look at rob jones souness signed him from nowere look how good he was. its not allways the big names that win you games,its the players who can play in big games. also unity is a must among players. we do require 2 attacing full backs, but isuana is worth a try, and nemeth as well. the reserves are hungry they should be are squad players, and have a strong 11 first teamers. the youngsters have desire, to make it, were some of the fist teamers allready think they have made it. so for me clean out kuyt, pennant, riise,carson. guthrie, and crouch if he wants to go. and voronin. and if alonso wants out let him go to. and finalay if rafa does not do it this time well it is time to move on.money might buy you who you want, but it will not garantee what you get...

clyde1874's picture

rouman

Rob Jones was signed from Crewe, not nowhere. and to be honest it was a big surprise to the Crewe fans, first that Liverpool signed him and second that he turned out to be so good, because he regularly made costly mistakes at Crewe. Pretty much agree with what you said although Alonso should go whether he wants to or not. Rafa should stop the random rotation and do it at the right times. Our youngsters should be given more of a chance if they're good enough, being brought on in games that are already won to start off with, but we do need to buy quality as well. LFC-4-EVER!

1Red1Pool's picture

Rouman

Rotation is a major problem with Benitez but he only really rotates the players he bought who aren't good enough. If you look at it closely, how often did he rotate Reina, Carra, Masch, Gerrard and Torres? Not that often in the games they were fit for.

He rotates the "not good enough players" he bought who can't consistently play well, the fullbacks, the wingers and the other three strikers. In other words the players in our first 11 who aren't top class. They might do alright in big European games but week in week out they are found wanting.

If Arbeloa or Aurelio played excellent all season at full back they wouldn't be rotated so often. But none of them are top class so he keeps changing them. Same with the strikers, if Crouch was a great player like Owen or Henry he wouldn't be rotated very often. The fact Crouch isn't a top class striker and neither are the other two donkey strikers, that's why they were rotated so often. Crouch is far better than Kuyt, but still not good enough for a title winning first 11.

Benitez constantly rotates the players he bought who haven't been good enough to help the team challenge for the title. If he had brought 11 top class players to the club he wouldn't rotate them very often except for injury or tiredness. The fact that he hasn't even brought 11 top class players to the club in 4 years is the reason we haven't challenged for the title. I don't mean £20 million pound players in every position, I mean him as the manager picking quality players at prices we can afford. Better players than Kuyt or Benayoun or Pennant etc. etc... the not good enough players he bought and constantly rotates because they aren't good enough. Benitez is a great manager at organisation and motivating teams in big European games, but I think when it comes to judging a footballer he is hit and miss. And we need him to stop missing.

Don't forget we could have had Anelka off Fenerbache before Bolton got him. Instead we bought Dirk Kuyt. Our team would clearly be better with Anelka in the first 11 and not Kuyt. Poor decisions like that have delayed our progress in the league. Benitez needs to buy a Quaresma or Henry or Owen or Ribery this summer because that's another top class player added to the first 11 and we will see the improvement. If he keeps buying the likes of this Degen off Dortmund and two years later he is shipped off again because he isn't good enough then we will be going round in circles to 4th place.

He has spent £150 million before this summer and yet to my eyes he has only bought four players who are guaranteed a spot in the first 11 year next - Torres, Masch, Agger and Reina. Alonso has become a 2nd rate player the last two seasons. The rest of the players Benitez bought are all squad players because none of them are good enough to cement a place in the first 11. Apart from Babel and Skytel who might become great players, most of them are mid table players.

rouman's picture

1red1pool..

it does not matter, if thry were average players , or not rotation is not the way forward. confedence is what all football players reqire, rafa takes that away from them, you start of being poor. then you get worse. as for anelka yes he is ok, but he ,s not class, he does not score enough goals, and he has been at too many clubs.even at chelsea he is on the bench, once he was good eniough not now. anyone is better than kuyt owen yes but rafa does not like him. we do have a lot of average players but you don,t get to 2 c/l finals without some skill. no team in the counrty has more than 5 world class players playing for them, the mancs chelsea, or arse. and i for one do not beilive that one average player is better than the next one.what rafa needs is a real liverpool man next to him sammy lee. or someone like him. we all know rafa keeps his distance from players, so we need a middle man. even big nose thommo. john aldridge would do a good job. i played football at a good level. and if i got rotated it was out the door.

1Red1Pool's picture

Well rotation will continue

Well rotation will continue next season unless there's players in the team who are playing so well they can't be "dropped". Benitez won't change his stripes. We need better players and I doubt his ability to find them with the budget he has. Give him an open check book and Benitez will lift the title like Grant might but as things are I can't see it. He has more balls than Wenger but not the same eye for talent.

I think he's very good in Europe but week in week out his negative streak and refusal to play a more attacking game is very unlikely to win the Premiership against Ferguson's attack minded teams who win Premiership games so easily week in wee out. Benitez is too obsessed with computer statistics than having the football instincts to see a player like Kuyt in the team ruins our chances of lifting the title.

We'll see who he buys in the summer. Any four of Quaresma, Ribery, Barry, Owen, Alves, Deco, Henry, Abidal, Sagnol, Villa and I will change my opinion.

Philk14's picture

Top class 11...?

There is not a team in Europe with a "Top class 11".

Utd - Van der Sar, Evra, Brown, Vidic, Ferdinand. Carrick, Scholes, Hargreaves. Tevez, Ronaldo, Rooney.

Brown, Carrick, Scholes, Hargreaves. Hardly top class, Scholes isn't half the player he used to be. I wouldn't call Ferdinand Top class either, without Vidic he's nothing. Van der Sar has had better days too.

Chelsea - Cech, Terry, Carvalho, Cole, Belletti. Essien, Ballack, Lampard. Kalou, J.Cole, Drogba.

Lampard is over rated and not needed when Ballacks around. Cole is a child. Terry needs Carvalho to hold his hand, to stop him handling the ball and pushing lads. Kalou is a nothing player. J.Cole plays good for half a season, belongs at West Ham. Belletti was finished at Barca.

So in a winning team you need 5 or 6 class players in the right positions. We have, Reina, Carra, Agger, Gerrard, Mashe and Torres. We just need to improve at left back and get better attacking options especially on the right. Let some of the young lads replace the likes of Voronin, Crouch, Pennant, Riise. Insua looks like a decent left back. Buy big to replace Kuyt. Then we can challenge for the number one spot. But money rules over all and we can't compete with Utd and Chelsea in that respect. Every player wants to sign for Chelsea for the money, they don't want to play football. S.Wright-Phillips, Sidwell, Malouda, Schevchenko, Anelka to name but a few are wasted at that club and went there for the cash.

1Red1Pool's picture

Top class Phil doesn't

Top class Phil doesn't equate into world class. Sami Hyypia has been a top class player for Liverpool for many years in my eyes. But I doubt anyone would call him world class.

Top class means a good player who knows his position well and adds something to the team. A player you can rely on with a certain amount of quality, even if he's not brilliant.

As far as Im concerned only Wes Brown isn't a top class player in ManUre's first 11.

Only Beletti or Ferrera aren't top class in the Chelsea team, and that's why they now play Essien right back.

Liverpool had Arbeloa, Riise, Kuyt and Benayoun who aren't top class players against Chelsea. And Arbeloa and Riise were at fault for two of the goals.

Gareth Barry for example is top class, but not world class. We need these type of players at full back and on the wings.

kev j's picture

why so quiet on here lately

good win 4 liverpool im hoping that was voronin's last goal 4 liverpool and his last apperance cant believe he played fucking kuyt again! rafa should of played more reserves 2day coz we had fuck all 2 play 4 2day! still a good win tho torres breaks van nistelrooy's record of scoring the most goals on his debut season well done el nino we need some transfer activity in the summer if we gonna match the MANCS!!!

clyde1874's picture

Next Year Different

I think next year will be different, once the challenge for the League was over yet again, Rafa knew he had to finish in the top 4, so he started picking a settled side, when he did this we went on an unbeaten run, so he realises what needs to be done, its not rocket science is it! I think his tinkering with the team was made worse by the fact that he is Stubborn, and wouldn't want it to look like he was taking any advise from anyone, especially the press. If he puts his personal pride away and does his job properly then we could mount a serious challenge next season, with some decent signings. what about Hienze at Madrid? If he's fit, not as good as Evre but better than what we've got at left back, and an added bonus of pissing Ferguson off! Then we need a right back, right and left midfielders and one forward to go with Torres, Babel and Crouch if he's daft enough to stay.(If he goes then he will come back to haunt us) It would be worth trying to get Dean Ashton, he is a class act always scored goals at Crewe, Norwich and West Ham. The scum are reported to be after him, we don't need that, the twats have done what they've done for the last couple of years without a recognised centre forward, imagine what they could be like with a decent one! Doesn't bare thinking about. LFC-4-EVER!

rouman's picture

clyde1874.

sorry about the crewe thing with rob jones. but dean ashton was offerd to l,pool and everton before he left crewe. they didnot want him. but i agree he is a good player. are you from crewe? i will be at anfield for are last home game, and i hope the last time i see afew of them in a red shirt..

clyde1874's picture

rouman

I'm from Scotland originally, and have lived in Crewe for over 30 years, so have a soft spot for them. I agree with you and hope its the last time that some of them will be allowed to pull the shirt on. It used to be a thing of immense pride to wear the red shirt of Liverpool and just pulling it on would give players a lift, now its just something some of them do to get their wages! Harry Kewell doesn't even bother trying to do that! I read what Torres said about training, how intense Rafa likes it to be, so if Kuyt trains like he plays that would explain why Rafa always gives him a game, it would seem that being a headless chicken is better than being a decent player if you want to play for Liverpool these days. Good job Torres is there otherwise i don't think Stevie G would want to be staying! LFC-4-EVER!

kev j's picture

wheater!!!

According 2 walkon website rafa is interested in bringing david wheater from boro 2 liverpool u gotta be kidding we dont need him dont rate him at all

kev j's picture

breaking news

liverpool has made a bid 4 gareth barry not a cash offer but a bid with a mish mash of players we all know that carson is probably one of those players and maybe is riise aswell what u guys think of this? gareth barry would be a good signing 4 us rafa is starting early in the transfer market he needs 2 coz we missed out on potentional signings last year

rouman's picture

kev j

yea i heard he had offerd 10 mil, oneal wants crouch and riise. carson iam not too sure. they can have riise and carson, but i would keep crouch, let them have kuyt. i tell you this if crouch does leave he will come back, and make us pay. but i cannot blame him wanting to move on, rafa does not give him a fair go. but barry would be a great addition. for starters.

aatir's picture

yeh ...crouch shud be sold

yeh ...crouch shud be sold to some other european team...as roma were interested i heard...
barry for ten million if it hapeens will be a fantastic deal...i hope it goes thru...
kuyt goin nowhere man...rafa loves him man...bbut i do think he will play a more limited role next season and will probably leave then after...
riise ,carson, pennant, kewell, ..will probably make it to the transfer list...
but id like to see what happens to alonso if the bary deal does go thru...

kev j's picture

agree rouman

ur correct there if crouch did go ur spot on he would come bk and haunt us with out doubt 4 some reason i dont know why but rafa isnt given him a decent run in the side he'd rather use that crap useless p*ick kuyt what he see's in him god only knows i can see kuyt bein with us next season to? lets hope KK signs him 4 newcastle but we are in need of to top name wingers tho and a top name striker what u think rouman?

rouman's picture

kev j

yes i think rafa will keep that kuyt, also kuyt thinks he is too good to play at lesser teams. so he won,t move. we need wingers, and 2 attacking full backs also i have heard barca have touted henry around prem clubs. who knows, if rafa got any balls he would get henry now...

aatir's picture

rouman get over henry...he

rouman get over henry...he aint comin

rouman's picture

aatir...

well maybey, but arse don,t want him back. now if he does come back to the prem, and from good sources barca want him out. and he wants to return, were would you go? newcastle? spurs? west ham? villa? or LIVERPOOL. lets see.

clyde1874's picture

Hopefully its true, Barry

Hopefully its true, Barry would be a very good addition, and its an excellent way of recycling some rubbish(not Carson of course). LFC-4-EVER!

otleyred's picture

Players v Rotation

The debate about players will go on for ever - everyone you speak to knows we need two quality full backs and two qulaity wingers. So Rafa allegedly puts a bid in for Barry !?!? Good or bad he is not actually what we need. Crouch will come back to haunt us - why - because he will be treated fairly by any other manager in the country. Rotation is shite - changing formation AND rotating players is absolute bloody stupidity. Remember the team for Reading away this year ( Crouch & Voronin on the wings ) - Benitez has got away with it this year - if we are out of the title race by December he has to go - Kewell, Arbeloa, Voronin, Benayoun, Pennant, Kuyt, Crouch, Aurelio can all go with him. Title or bust - nothing else will do, absolutely nothing else - bollocks to the Champions League. Can't see it happening until the stubborn manager with the stupid tactics goes elswhere. Remember Middlesborough away first half !?!?!? ( and there were too many others similar games this season ) Average players will not win a title. Average players struggle against Luton Town, Havant & Waterlooville and Barnsley. Rotation does not create the team spirit needed for a 38 game commitment. £150m spent and all we have is rotation and mediocrity. I know it ain't going to happen (yet) but there is only one answer to the problem. Adios Amigo

stulivered's picture

Clearout talk + big name buys- CRAP!

1st- whole sale commments such as selling half the team (otleyred) is nonsense, i agree lots need to go, but selling Crouch, Arbeloa, Alonso,Benanyoun,Finnan,Carson - whom have all been mentioned repetatively is crazy talk. Depleting the squad and rebuilding it is not the answer.
Look at the top teams, are Fletcher,carrick,oshea,brown better players than the ones for us mentioned above, NO!! all squads need back up players who arent quiet as good as the first 11, thats why they are the 1st 11 and the others are subs. benayoun has done well and is a decent squad player so is big pete so is arbeloa etc etc.

2nd- big name buys we would love, but were not chelsea, we cant afford 4 new world stars, lets get real, the defence we have is good enough and with a few improvements would be ok, only splashing of the cash i want to see is 1 striker to help superman upfront and a winger preferably right sided as babel can do a ok job for now, thats it, we dont have any more cash, this isnt fantasy footy on the P.S 2,
its difficult to pick good players when on a budget but rafa must least like last season go all out for someone ie David Villa, and maybe joaquin or quaresma. full backs we can promote from within ie insua or buy decent cheaper players to compliment ones we have, Centre backs are good, carra,sami,agger,sklte will be good enough no worries

1Red1Pool's picture

Buy Quaresma and Barry

It's true Stu we won't have a mass clearout but there will be at least 4-5 being sold.

The way I see it is Gareth Barry is a good player who will do a better job week in week out than Alonso. But we need a flair player also and a bigger international name than Barry to give us real hope of the title.

Quaresma is the typle of skillful talented attacker we have been crying out for. He can frustrate you with his flicks and tricks but the boy has class - and we need class. Not more Pennants and Benayouns.

Benitez can afford Quaresma if he wanted him. All he has to do is sell Crouch and Pennant and make up the small difference.

But will Benitez do it? Or will he buy this no name Valencia from Wigan and complain 12 months later he couldn't afford any better when he could if he used his money wisely.

rouman's picture

agree

we need quaresma, he is my fist choice. valencia is raw, let the mancs have him, they are willing to pay 10 mil. also mancini, i think he might come to. but i am not to sure about him, he did nothink agaist the mancs. he says he needs a change as he has gone stale. for 5 mil maybey but we do need players with flair. i hope we do not get bentley, a poormans beckham.

sami's picture

Agree

I Agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kev j's picture

no crouch

I cant beleive rafa what the fuck is this man doing? no crouch again! that fucking bloke hasnt got a fucking clue what he's doing his fucking obsession with KUYT is really testing my fucking paitence! he is so out of place in the squad he proved that in the first half against man city he doesnt bring anything 2 the team what so ever! i feel so sorry 4 crouch he's a much much better player than kuyt i just cant believe why rafa is treating him so badly! what do u guys think? rafa's record for the first 150 games is W81 D35 L34. predecessor gerrard houllier's record for his first 150 games is W81 D35 L34. SPOOKY SYMMETRY OR WHAT EH GUYS! LFC give houllier one year to many and the same has happened with rafa!

kev j's picture

ive come 2 a conclusion

Kuyt has defo got something on benitez no matter how he performs in games he still gets 90 mins and i really really dont know why! it seems 2 amaze me everytime he subs gerrard like he did 2day why? he played so well 2day yet he was still subbed its not as if rafa has 2 save him 4 up coming games is it! maybe he saving him 4 the pre-season friendlies its just a joke that fucking kuyt always plays the 90 mins! he is really starting 2 get my goat that c*ap shyt is we had 19 attempts on goal 2day and only scored one now that tells u that our other strikers are utterly fucking crap and that needs addressing in the summer starting by off loading kuyt and voronin and bringing in a villa,henry,or a queresma kinda player lets face it kuyt has only scored 3 PL goals all season and that just isnt good enough! insua played very well 2day well played liverpool should try and sign joe hart what a keeper he is.

rouman's picture

the reason no crouch, or

the reason no crouch, or riise, there both on there way. i don,t think crouch can take anymore. along with pennant i think its goobye from them all. the game today , was like are season we cannot kill teams off. it should have been 3/4 o yet in the last 5 mins reinna saved the day. as for kuyt. i hope next season when we get another striker, he spens all the time on the bench. well i am looking forward to my hoildays now. and for next season. the spurs game will be nomore than a training game.

kev j's picture

as the season comes 2 an end wot can be said about it?

1.NO PROGRESS WHAT SO EVER IN PL
2.NO PROGRESS WHAT SO EVER IN OUR FOOTBALL (still dour drab anti football)
3.NO TROPHY
4.STILL SAME MISTAKES REGARDING TACTICS & ROTATION OF PLAYERS
5.STILL CANT GET THE BETTER OF OUR RIVALS IN THE PL

We finished last season in 3rd ahead of arsenal! out spent them 2-1 in the summer & yet we finish behind them this season!

Going by who we are linked with this summer i think its safe 2 say my fellow pool fans that rafa has no clue as 2 what it takes for us to even challenge for the PL let alone win it its gonna be the same old thing next season out of the PL race by xmas rafa has had one year to many.

rouman's picture

kev j

yes its been one of maybey,s, and ifs. i am far from happy, but rafa will be here next year and i hope he gets the new buys right. because if he does,t it will be the end for him. nomore rotation in the prem, the cups well maybey. but i would not mind a trip to wembley. well kev all we can do is hope that rafa has learned from his mistakes. because he will not get the surport if he fails next year.... and i think he knows that.

kev j's picture

sums up our season rouman

Thats typical of our season rouman cant finish teams off i put in my other forum we had 19 attempts against man c and converted the one thats how poor we have been all season not finishing teams off it doesnt help the amount of chances our so called defender/striker kuyt gets babel is the same so is lucas they all had chances 2 kill the game kuyt had more than all of them kuyt has had 3 PL goals all season that is no where near good enough he doesnt belong in our side the sooner rafa realises that the better players that need off loading in the summer. riise,kuyt,voronin,alonso,pennant,& kewell and it looks like that crouch is leaving thanks 2 fucking rafa and his stupid fucking obsession with playing KUYT ALL THE PISSING TIME I DONT BLAME CROUCH 4 WANTING 2 LEAVE HE DOESNT DESERVE 2 BE TREATED THE WAY HE HAS.

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