Anyone else listening or watching this dross!!

we wont win shit this season .players suck so does rafa.we need to start voicing our frustrations.

I see on this forum we are divided into those who will vent their frustrations via open discussion and those that would rather not think about it and perhaps just go to youtube and watch some footage from the 70's. I didn't mean for the last bit to be an attack on anyone just the way I see it.

I think the reason why X games into the season I'm so concerned is because this is RAFAS SQUAD!! We have players at LFC who are here on the strength of the Gaffa including many youth team players and a good 3 - 4 1st team internationals. This is a squad Rafa has assembled meticulously over the last 3yrs and still we lack that certain something, that certain flair that certain magic that certain unexpected brilliance. We simply do not play a style of football that will be conducive to that.

We are a defensively minded team with empathizes on closing down the opposition and retaining possession trying to probe and find an opening. Thats all very well should we have players who are expressive and try different things (with a greater degree of success than Luis) but we don't. Thats not to say we don't have a very talented squad because I sincerely believe we do but we have a squad of players merely executing instructions. I see no individual brilliance apart from the captain!

JP can ghost past players and should cut in and shoot or drive into the box for extra support but he doesn't and instead hugs that touch line and has his eye on his defensive duties.

Xavi a very gifted passer of the ball with a great footballing brain, reduced to playing the ball back to Carra or searching for 70 yard passes because he's been told to play the holding midfielder position. Snuffed out in the middle.
Khuyt Prolific striker in Holland but forced to drop so deep in the prem that he is now more midfielder than striker.

This season we have arguably the most talented squad we've had in years and we also have strength in depth. The key to the success of rotation was to keep winning and mounting of serious challenges on all fronts. It appears we may not do that if we continue to rotate. So then do we rotate and not win or win and not rotate ???

1)if we rotate and not win then the fans will become disenchanted (see forums)
Fans backlash will cause a revolt and could force the Gaffa out which would be catastrophic considering that much of the squad are players that he's brought in and feel a particular affinity to the gaffa. Players Like Torres /Xavi / Pepe / Lucas / all of the young Spanish youth players!!

2)If we win and don't rotate then players will become disenchanted bearing in mind many are young promising players (internationals) who at this stage need games under their belt to reach full potential ( eg Cesc Fabregas)
Young players need games and if they feel they aren't getting them then they are off in the next window! many are foreigners and won't be happy to sit on the bench in a foreign country like say Defo would be because he's a Londoner and enjoys the lifestyle.

For me it seems Rafa has too many ideas, good ideas but too many options to be able to execute the most practical. I feel his hand is being turned by variety.

I'd like to know how other fans see it ?? Finding the balance

Liverpool played better in champion league's , fa cups i don't know why they have become so boring to watch in the premier league. They started off great but now they seem to be falling a sleep through the game, if not them it will be me. Rafa does not seem bothered we should be kicking Birmingham's arse scoring 2-0 or even 3-0. Rafa and the lads want to get there selves sorted out and start scoring soon. Common we are waiting!Lets show them how football should be played. Surely we can beat Reading.